If you choose to induct Loghain into the Grey Wardens, the party will permanently lose Alistair. Alistair is the main protagonist of The Silent Grove, a digital comic series. He still believes it is that servant from Redcliffe. That is the only way to get Alistair to stay in the Grey Wardens, all other methods have him become king, be executed, sacrifice himself or leave the wardens and becomne a drunk in Kirkwall.
Although Grey Wardens are not forbidden from marrying, it is rare for them to do so. Their short lifespans make them poor candidates for parenthood or long-term relationships.
Therefore, your Grey Warden must survive the end of the game in order to actually marry Anora. If Alistair makes the ultimate sacrifice: Atop Fort Drakon , Alistair plunges his blade into Urthemiel , giving his own life to end the Blight.
He is remembered as a hero by the people of Ferelden. If Alistair became the sole King of Ferelden he will still offer to make the ultimate sacrifice calling it "His first and last act as King".
If King Alistair dies, Anora will become the new Queen and in her speech will mention that the Theirin bloodline died with Alistair. If Alistair completes the Dark Ritual: Following the revelation that the sacrifice of a Warden's life is necessary to slay the Archdemon , Morrigan offers an alternative: by participating in a mysterious ritual, a Warden could father a child with Morrigan and thus kill the Archdemon without making the ultimate sacrifice.
Despite the animosity between him and Morrigan, Alistair is persuaded to participate in this ritual so long as Morrigan promises that the child won't be used to plague Ferelden. This saved both his and The Warden's life, and they defeat the Archdemon and are hailed as heroes.
If Alistair is king: Alistair arrives at Vigil's Keep with a regiment of troops and the templar, Rylock , to inspect the newly established Warden stronghold in Amaranthine. He wishes the Warden-Commander luck, charging them with the rebuilding of Vigil's Keep and the restoration and administration of Amaranthine.
He also approves the conscription of the apostate, Anders , into the Wardens' ranks, despite Rylock's protestations. If Alistair is king: Due to the immense volume of Fereldan refugees who settled in Kirkwall, King Alistair makes a visit to the city, accompanied by Bann Teagan.
He invites Hawke , the Champion of Kirkwall to an audience in the Viscount's Keep , but is in the midst of a dispute with Knight-Commander Meredith Stannard regarding the freedoms afforded to mages.
Following the Knight-Commander's exit, King Alistair discusses the Champion's thoughts on returning to Ferelden and also mentions that many Orlesian nobles are hoping to seize upon Ferelden's weakened state in the wake of the Blight to reconquer lost territory. He encounters Hawke while battling Qunari and gifts them with the Sacred Heart. Eager to avoid involving the Wardens in the Qunari-Kirkwall conflict, he leaves the city shortly afterwards. Alistair arrives in Antiva City where he enters the headquarters of the Antivan Crows along with the pirate Isabela and Varric Tethras.
The pair exchange a hushed conversation, where Alistair is asked whether he "is convinced". They also speak briefly of an escape from Velabanchel, a prison run by the Antivan Crows before parting ways. He later makes his way into Velabanchel, where he encounters a wizened prisoner within a cell, who, when Alistair utters, " King Maric?
Alistair escapes Velabanchel with his companions and the prisoner they found. The old man tells him that Yavana , a Witch of the Wilds rescued Maric. Alistair goes to the Tellari swamps and is attacked by a high dragon. Yavana then appears and calms the beast.
Alistair discusses his father with Claudio in the Crows' camp. Claudio prepares to reveal who his patron is - the one who ordered Alistair's kidnap - though Isabela and Varric attack the camp before he continues. As Isabela prepares to kill Claudio, Alistair orders her to stop, but she does so anyway.
He then explains that Claudio had information about Maric that is now lost. However Yavana mentions that Claudio's spirit is still lingering in the Fade, so she casts a spell which brings his spirit back to his body.
Claudio's spirit mentions that his master is Aurelian Titus before Yavana destroys Claudio's lifeless body. She then invites Alistair to follow her under the Silent Grove. Alistair follows her into a large breeding lair of dragons. Yavana reveals to him that her quest was to preserve the existence of dragons from those who couldn't understand and were just killing them. Despite her efforts, she never managed to awaken a great one. Alistair continues his quest by going to Qarinus in order to find Claudio's master, magister Aurelian Titus.
They attend a ball that the magister is also expected to attend. There, they also meet a friend of Varric; the magister Maevaris Tilani and also Lord Devon who seems to know Isabela from the past. When Titus finally arrives at the ball, Alistair asks him if he knows who he is, to which Titus says no. When Alistair reveals to him who he really is, he demands to know where his father is.
Titus then tries to use blood magic in order to control him but Alistair uses his templar skills in order to resist. As soon as Titus realizes that Alistair is a templar, he orders his minions to seize him while he escapes.
When the brawl finally ends, Isabela captures one of Titus' men alive whom they bring back to her ship. Varric interrogates him and tricks him into revealing the location of the Magister's stronghold in Seheron. However, before they reach Seheron, two Qunari dreadnoughts attack Isabela's pirate ship and after a brief fight, Alistair and his companions along with Isabela's crew are captured by the Qunari and are kept as prisoners in a Qunari war camp named Akhaaz.
After three weeks, a Qunari guard enters the locked room of Alistair and Varric and tells them that the Arishok is waiting for them and orders them to follow him. Alistair quickly realizes that the new Arishok is in fact Sten who addresses Alistair as kadan , showing unprecedented respect for him, not apparent from their past conversations.
Sten informs him that Titus seeks him because of his blood and he says that it is foolish to follow him into his lair and for that reason he will be held prisoner until Sten deals with that threat.
When Alistair demands more answers from Sten, the latter responds aggressively and tells him not to seek him again. In the meantime, Isabela manages to escape while the Qunari were trying to convert her to the Qun. She reaches the cell of Alistair and Varric, releases them and tells them to get away from the prison while she goes to free her crew as well. Alistair and Varric fight their way out of the prison but in the end the Arishok was waiting for them.
Alistair tries to stop the upcoming fight but Sten attacks immediately. Since Varric is unable to assist effectively without his Bianca , the fight becomes a duel. Qunari dreadnoughts attack Aurelian Titus ' fortress and Varric infiltrates the building while Isabela and Alistair assault the fortress directly with the Qunari. Prior to this, Sten —now the Arishok —tells Alistair and Isabela the Qunari version of the myth of King Calenhad , and how he made a deal with a mysterious witch to drink dragon blood, become a Reaver and create Ferelden.
Varric's attempt to free King Maric from the Magrallen causes everyone to be pulled into the Fade. Varric, Isabela, and Maevaris were able to reunite and tracked Alistair and King Maric in a fantasy where Alistair was Maric's acknowledged son, and Cailan still lived and was the heir apparent to the throne of Ferelden.
Varric reminds Alistair of his mission to kill Titus, find Maric, and then become a proper king in order to convince Alistair to not live a lie. Varric asks King Maric if he agrees, to which he concurs with Varric that Alistair must face the reality of the situation and turn away from this fantasy. Alistair then concedes and is briefed of their predicament: Titus was pulled into the Fade with them and is hunting them with demons.
Alistair desires to take the fight to him. Alistair and his band tracks Titus to his own dream fantasy in the Fade and launches an ambush on him. Eventually Titus is slain in the ensuing battle by King Maric and his schemes to take over Thedas for Tevinter was foiled. If Alistair is king and the Inquisition recruits the rebel mages: Alistair allows the rebel mages to take refuge in Redcliffe Castle. However after the rebel mages are aggressively taken over by the Tevinter Magister Gereon Alexius , Alexius begins to have rebel mages displace the people of Redcliffe.
Having enough of the mages' abuse, Alistair alongside Queen Anora if they rule jointly , arrives in Redcliffe with a contingent of soldiers shortly after the Inquisition 's ousting of Alexius to inform the rebel mages that they have outstayed their welcome and recommends that they take whatever deal that the Inquisitor offers, informing them that he has no intention of offering a better deal. Later Alistair will request the Inquisition's aid with foiling a Venatori plot against his and Anora's if she reigns with him life.
Alistair also asks the Inquisition to serve as mediators in the peace talks with the ruler of Orlais, following the resolution of the War of the Lions. The only way for Alistair to become king while Loghain is still alive is to marry Anora. Not only that, but the player must make sure Alistair is hardened. Alistair, like Leliana, is a character that can be hardened during his personal quest.
Most guides advise hardening him if the player wants to make him king. Basically, a hardened Alistair has more confidence and is willing to put duty above feelings. This makes him much more willing to become king. To get his personal quest, players must know the true identity of his father as well as have a decent approval rating with him.
To learn his father's identity, players will need to take him in the party when they first arrive at Redcliffe, or wait until they finish the Urn of Sacred Ashes questline by healing Arl Eamon.
The only important dialogue choice the player needs to choose to harden Alistair comes after leaving Goldanna's house. The player must pick, "Everyone is out for themselves. So, yeah, there's a strong case for not crowning him right there. Even hardened Alistair has these faults to a degree -- he's still pretty much a newbie to court and only recently wanting it.
Plus, he might be moreorless infertile, which might provide a few problems down the line. Personally, married him off to Anora. They make a good enough match, remove chance of any civil wars being made in either's name, and in my case it prevented him from going on to live life in Kirkwall's tavern. Lavaeolus Status: Offline. By wiccame - Sun Feb 23, am.
Reasons being, its what he prefers not to mention he has been pushed, pulled, hidden and ignored by the 'royal' circle all his life. He has especially been treated badly by Eamon, sure Eamon took him in as a baby, but gave him no quality of life for it. Made to sleep in stables, treated like nothing more than a servant and made every attempt to pretend like he doesn't exist, as a royal. Now, the country is in chaos and there is no more royals left to take over and suddenly Alistair has a duty to perfom, Bullpoop to that.
Sadly though as I don't like seeing him being walked over I quite often harden him and he is all too willing to take the throne, but he also does a good job of it. He is compassionate, has the background that will make him more in tune with the needs of the normal people, which makes him popular. And he is a good warrior and willing to fight so he would be very active. Marry him off to a Cousland who has had the upbringing to lead and knowledge that will come in handy to rule and he wont have to worry too much on that side.
Well, I'm one who can't really not kill Loghain. I mean, I know how he is, deep inside, a good man, a hero fallen from grace, but the game never really made that point come across as much as I'd like.
From a roleplaying standpoint, my same Warden that would want to see Alistair remain a Grey Warden and Anora claim the throne, would also kill Loghain. To add to my views on this matter: I also don't see Alistair marrying Anora.
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